Friday, September 3

Update: Geo Reports By Date


A quick update here at Jango Airplay before we take off for a holiday weekend. We've just updated your Geographic Reports so you can search geo-data by week. Check it out in your reports tab, we're hoping this helps in getting a broader overview of listener trends.

Have a great weekend!

27 comments:

Anonymous said...

Thank you so much for your good job :-)
Have a great weekend you too!
Tinamaria

Anonymous said...

Not sure why you did that? The geo map worked much better before. Now it is impossible to see an overall count in any particular state or country.

Manager for Mariah Ver Hoef said...

Hi Jango,
The Geographic Report is now broken. The "Likes" for the Geographic Reports do not add up to the "Likes" for the Play Stats. As it is, the feature is now useless. I also do not think this is an improvement. Now, to get overall performance for a country, we have to go back and add up all of the weekly data, by country, and by song. If you want to make this "improvement", then please give us the totals as well, like you do for the play stats. Finally, it would be nice to release something like this when someone was around to fix it, not before a long weekend.

Just some helpful comments. Thanks for all that you do, and have a nice weekend.

Anonymous said...

Taking away totals is sort of not smart. Put it back.

Anonymous said...

Boooooooooooooo Booooooooooooo Booooooooooo! change it back, Thanks

Anonymous said...

Please put the totals back! Also your "new" Pop score used to better before. It gave you something to look forward to, now I don't understand it. I get all these "likes" and fans and my score is always zero. I understand the 100 paid plays, did it...Nothing changes. These are just comments to help you improve. You guys still rock.

Anonymous said...

i would like to see what countries are best over time,not one week at a time,its more helpful

Anonymous said...

I think the possibility is interesting, but it would be clearly better if we could select not only the week but an option with the total amount.
A great thing would be to have the possibility os selecting the start date and end date (same coment for the rest of the reports)

Lisa Whealy said...

Jango,

I agree that "fixing" this issues has made it less clear. The other thing that I notice is that the likes do not seem to add up ~ I know it takes time for some reports to catch up to each other. For an artist to have an increase in listeners and "likes" week to week yet not have their pop score reflective is strange. Many of us have attempted to figure out how exactly that magical number is derived, but as yet have been unable. Maybe is it the more listens an artist recieves from people who are already fans, the less it counts?

Harry Potter, I need your help!

Lisa Whealy
Manager for Tobie Milford
Surface to Air Records, LLC

Manager for Mariah Ver Hoef said...

Hi Lisa and others,

I've been doing this now for 9 months, and I think I have the pop score more or less figured out. First and foremost, remember that it is a *relative* score. That is, suppose that the best bands get 30% likes, while the worst get 5% likes. Then, the top bands get scores of 100, while the worst get near 0. Now, suppose that everyone figures out how to increase their likes. The best bands get 40% and the worst bands get 10%. The best bands will still get pop scores of 100, while the worst will be near 0. Jango just ranks bands based on *paid likes*, and then assigns the score based on their rank. So, absolute number of "likes" does not fully determine your score. Also, "likes" can come from organic plays, such as when someone views a profile, listens to a song, and clicks the smiley face. This does not count toward the pop score. So that too, can make it confusing when just looking at number of likes. Hope this helps.

Jay Ver Hoef (Harry Potter)
Manager for Mariah Ver Hoef

Stephen Poppell said...

Pop the totals back in there as well and it'll be great.

Anonymous said...

I have over 100 plays a week and never see a pop score until Saturday night. I used to enjoy seeing it change. What happened to the credits too? This is two weeks without an email or any credits after a pop score of 85+

Dustin Case said...

I love this service and the company, but it seems like all the recent "improvements" are being geared towards gradually having the artists pay more and more for services...

Anonymous said...

Harry Potter Ver Hoef:

You almost had it, but just as Einstein manufactured his "cosmological constant" to make his model of the universe a changeless one, neither expanding nor contracting, you imagined a Jango where "everyone figures out how to increase their likes" to illustrate your take on relativity.

The total # of Airplay artists competing for ranking changes from week to week. Within the PopScore week, that # only increases -- often dramatically. At the end of the day, 0 and 100 are assigned to the bottom and top 1 percent of the total PopScore population, and every percentile will have the same number of bands (maybe 5, maybe 105, 555...?). SO...

Short answer: Your PopScore is determined more by other bands than by your own. Use your Play Stats to determine your success.* Use the PopScore to....well, nobody really knows what PopScore is for. But good luck!

K Parker

*Fans are an easier metric to use than likes since only a paid play can produce one (in theory). It is quite possible that the PopScore is nothing more than fans (minus "break 'em" haters) divided by paid plays.

Anonymous said...

Hey Jango, I love ya! Really I do, but the new Geo does not work properly, AT ALLL. The data is ALLLLLLL WRONG! Please put it back as it was. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

Why was the geo changed? Where people asking for it? One thing I did notice was that prior to this change the geo score was ahead, meaning that it generally had updates before the home page or the email notifications. Now it's just the opposite.

Manager for Mariah Ver Hoef said...

Hey Anonymous K. Parker,

Thanks for your take on the pop score. It is mysterious. You are right, as more artists reach 100 plays for a single song during the week, more and more pop scores appear. The pop score itself is imperfect, as it measures a band's ability to target their audience as much as the likability of their songs. One reason to try for a good pop score is that it does create more organic plays by Jango (= free plays!). I have tested it, and they *will* insert a band's song into radio stations of similar artists, even if that band is not listed for that station. The better the pop score, the more Jango, independently, inserts that band's songs. I agree though that fans, emails, and other basic feedback are just as good or better reasons to use Jango.

Also, one minor clarification. You can get a "fan" without a paid play. There is a large button on the listener's page when they go to an artist's profile that says "I'm a fan." If they click that, they become a fan. This is a less common way to get a fan, though, than by a paid play.

Jay, Manager for Mariah Ver Hoef

Daniel Fries said...

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! Awful Idea!
At least do us a favor and let us see stats for all time as well.

Anonymous said...

I think the old way was easier to use and presented better data... I am looking for long term trends not weekly report data...

Anonymous said...

Right, the big button! I forgot all about it (and me trying to sound all smart and everything).

As someone here pointed out, PopScore doesn't reward any of the lofty aspirations we artists hold, it rewards good targeting. Makes sense as Jango sells just that: targeting (on the listener side targeting is called
"matching," but by any name it's the name of Jango's game. PopScore rewards making Jango's job easier (well, first it rewards the witting and witting exploiting of the vagaries of standard deviation; then it rewards making Jango's job easier).

Not anonymous, just

K Parker

Daniel said...

Boooooooooooo........ why would I want that? If I have a fan in new york why should it matter when I got them? It worked before. It's BROKEN now. Pleeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaase stop beating around the bush and just give us a ***FAN OVERLAP*** that's worth looking at. One like the last geo report.

Anonymous said...

Remember that to get a pop score you need to have at least ONE SONG with 100 paid plays for the week. Having 5 songs with 20 paid plays each does NOT count.
If you are going to use only 100 paid plays use them all on the same song to get yourself a pop score.

Anonymous said...

waaaa!aaaarrrrggg!please give us a total,a big time monkey wrench in my figuring out who likes me best.for instance,iraq hates me,next week they will hate me again.dos it matter when they hate me,no,it dosnt,but i dont want to ad up every week,when we have computers that can do it for us,this is the equivlent to saint anger,you have made so many good moves that you think you cant make a wrong move,thanks have a nice day,but please fix it

Anonymous said...

Not one positive comment about this change!! Are you gonna change it back or what??

Anonymous said...

It's incredible!!! In Italy we said : it's an autogoal.

Anonymous said...

I agree, the feature is now useless. I no longer look at it. Please change it back.

Duvid said...

Need totals more than weekly breakdown on geo report