Tuesday, May 18

Jango PopScore Top 5

Hey Folks, here's the top artists on Jango Airplay that had the best PopScore for last week. Some great music here all around so definitely check them out.

Artist: Marie Hines
Nashville based pop singer-songwriter Marie Hines carries an energy that resonates throughout her music. A natural lyricist, Marie sews a colorful patchwork quilt of the experiences and sounds of her youth.

Click to hear Marie Hines:
Wrapped Up In Love
Artist: Misery Index
Misery Index is a Baltimore-based grindcore/death metal band. Their latest release, "Heirs To Thievery" unloads another salvo in the group's charge to the forefront of the international death metal scene.

Click to hear Misery Index:
Theocracy
Artist: Arkid
Arkid is a psychedlic and progressive trance artist hailing from Manchester in the United Kingdom. He makes fresh, detailed music with just a hint of the Goa spirit.

Click to hear Arkid:
Night Pitch
Artist: Eric Dodge
Despite a lifelong passion for music, country artist Eric Dodge only began sharing his talents professionally in 2003. Since then he's shared the stage with Nashville's finest, and recently released the album "Home To Me."

Click to hear Eric Dodge:
The Last Real Cowboy
Artist: K. Davis
K. Davis is an independent hip-hop artist from Booklyn, NY. The emotions in his music are a product of overcoming through faith, ambition, and imagination.

Click to hear K. Davis:
Exposed

19 comments:

Jango Airplay said...

Attention airplay bands and commenters – update from the Jango Juggler

First we’d like to say thanks for all the activity on the blog comments here, it’s great that our bands are engaged though we had hoped that this space, the ‘Top 5’ bands each week, would be used for words of congratulations to the artists that make it into the top 5. PopScore is a simple method for us to award bonus play credits to bands that resonate well with our listeners. We like to highlight the Top 5 each week to give them a bit more exposure.

Some of you may be new to Jango Airplay so all of your concerns about how PopScore works have been addressed on this blog in previous blog posts if you would like to go back and review. I’ll also address some of your new concerns quickly here as well. But for the most part if you have questions please do e.mail Erin on airplay@jango.com and she can answer any of your questions.

Regarding anonymous posting…we have no problem with anonymous comments or we would have changed the settings…and, Average Joe, we truly don’t know who commenters are if they choose anonymous, I just knew to e.mail you after you commented that time because I know your writing style by now. Here’s lookin’ at you!

Bands don’t show up in the top 5 over and over again because there are 100s of bands shooting for the top positions each week. We have had one make it two times and there have been plenty of others that come close.

Regarding upsetting our corporate clients…We do have some Major Label artists getting a PopScore each week and a couple times have they been in the top 5. There are also many completely independent artists that make the Top 5 each week. Many of those are getting a PopScore for the first time. We want all our clients happy weather they spend $10 or $100.

Cover songs…they are allowed, of course. The songwriters and publishers still get paid via ASCAP/BMI…and if you get a great PopScore because of a cover song then more power to you. Think about it, both the Beatles and the Rolling Stones were cover bands for their first few years out.

So simply put, PopScore was created to give 100s of bands each week free play credits to use as they wish because our listeners like them.

Speak Soon, The Juggler

Anonymous said...

Juggler,

Nicely put. And may we be the first to congratulate the top 5 this week!

Anonymous said...

I'm curious - what kinds of pop scores do the top 5 artists tend to get? Presumably they're past 100 - are they are 120? 150? Can Jango give us some idea of what the range for the top 5 is (historically speaking)? Thanx...and congrats to the top 5.

Anonymous said...

I'm pretty sure 100 is the highest possible score.

Anonymous said...

EXCUSE ME?!?!?!??!!?

If "all of our concerns" amounted to no more than the simple question, "How is the PopScore calculated?" we could read every word of every blog and every comment and come up empty.

The closest we'd get is an incomplete, casual description ("the gist") of how the PopScore works (it's in scrap of a paragraph --all lowercase, with typos-- at the bottom of a comment from Jango Juggler on Feb 8's blog). The reason I know this is simple: I combed through and read every blog and comment hoping to have my concerns addressed. They weren't.

Advising your customers to look through that haystack for a needle that isn't there is straight-up cruel. Bald-faced lying to your customers is even worse. You really should be ashamed.

TANADRA said...

Congrats to the Top 5! Hard work and great tunes really does pay off!!

Anonymous said...

Yes. It would be nice to be in the top 5. We all want that. But at some point you just have to just let it go man...Is your music being heard? Has Jango had any positive effect in forwarding your goals or ambitions? Focus on that.
Or write a "Jango sucks" song with colorful metaphors and the whole nine yards and submit it. From reading this blog for awhile now, I'm sure that would get you quite a few fans and advance your quest for the top-pop-score of the week.

Anonymous said...

Your PopScore is determined by the listener. If you use poor targeting, or just aren't that good of a band you're not going to have a great score. You can't get mad at Jango if your music isn't that great. That's all on you.

AVERAGE JOE said...

it really comes down to the music. Period end of story. I say this with conviction because although never in the running for POP TOP, I have played around with the various combinations of targeting etc. Here is what I have found. My current POP Score is 6, based on reallocating to a song that never did well, hoping people would wake up and see how good it was> lol On the other hand I posted a song that I expected to be blasted with criticism and when I run it alone my POP SCORE jumpos to the 80+ range>

So my conclusion is if your song is really F'ing good, you will probably good a high POP SCORE.

Yes it is based on a mathematical formula, what other way is there to calculate it objectively. And as a boss of my in the Used Car Business Used to say: LIARS FIGURE BUT FIGURES NEVER LIE!!

JOE

P.S. I WILL COME UP WITH A SONG THAT SCORES AT LEAST A 90!! JUst to prove to MYSELF I can do "it" (IT being create a song that more people, who randomly here it for the first time, LOVE rather than HATE!! That's waht it comes down to, like it or not!!

Average Joe said...

Oh yeah...Congrats to the winners. YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING RIGHT!! To the HATERS...Come up with a better song!! hahahahahahaha

Anonymous said...

My band regularly comes up with scores of between 85 and 95. But not the elusive 100. If 100 really is the highest, then how is it that just 5 bands a week get chosen -- surely there must be more bands that hit 100 than just five?

Anonymous said...

The PopScore is a percentile. All a percentile does is show the relative standing of an individual within a population. A PopScore of 85 tells you that 84% of the population are ranked lower than you, presumably based on some kind of observation or test. The test that determines your PopScore is essentially a batting average (listener response divided by number of paid plays). The PopScore is not a measure of your band's popularity/performance, so don't tweak your targeting and play allocation based on it. Use your play stats to do this (just divide new fans by paid plays for any period of time and track your own "batting average"). I've had PopScores of 84 and 94 with nearly identical play stats. And others have had PopScores of 100 with 8 fans. Shows you what the PopScore's worth.

Anonymous said...

AVG JOE

Have you tried spinning 50-100 well-targeted plays of your "best" track on a Saturday afternoon? You should be able to score a 90 or higher--and if not, try again next week. The law of AVGs dictates that with small samples on sunny days you'll hit a knot of fans and score big time. All you need is 8 fans!

Anonymous said...

"Your PopScore is determined by the listener...You can't get mad at Jango if your music isn't that great. That's all on you."

The PopScore is a contest with 5 Top Spots. For the most part, those spots keep going to bands with statistically (and by Jango's own explanation) inaccurate samples. The comments about the PopScore are from high-scoring bands who are curious to puzzled to pissed-off about a ranking system that appears to be broken and which Jango refuses to explain.

Is it OK with you to get mad at Jango if Jango isn't that great?

Jessica Johnson said...

Here's my issue with the Pop Score (and first let me say that I love the service Jango offers and please don't consider this a complaint...more of an observation that you may want to address) I have noticed that if you want a high PopScore, you're best bet is to get your song playing first thing on a Monday and only allocate a small # of credits. Reason being, the longer you let the song play throughout the week, the lower your score gets. So if anything, these artists that are investing big $$ into Jango for rotation are at a disadvantage. The first package I bought was for 8,000 or 10,000 credits and I just them play out. The next time I bought fewer and starting noticing that on Monday my score would be really high, and then drop progressively through the week. Needless to say, this got me thinking...So I personally don't think the pop score is a really accurate system. I'm sure Jango will work the kinks out over time (atleast I hope they do) I think Pop Score should be based on how many likes/dislikes an artist gets relative to their plays, NOT to other artists' plays. For instance, if an artist has 100 plays and gets 50 likes and 50 dislikes, the score is a 50. If they have 1000 plays and get 500 likes and 500 dislikes, the score is also a 50. It shouldn't matter what day of the week or what other artists are scoring. Then, to determine the Top Scorers, simply compare scores. Right now (if I'm understanding it correctly) PopScore is relative to how other artists are ranked and played, so that's why the score drops/levels out/changes throughout the week.

Anonymous said...

Jessica:

See the post above yours explaining percentiles. As for how rank is determined, it is currently just as you describe (YOUR listener response divided by YOUR paid plays). You are absolutely right that allocating a small # of credits is the way to a high PopScore. This is for two reasons. First, small samples are inaccurate. 100 plays really means a sample size of about 20 (about 80% of plays are not heard/responded to). At such low numbers, the probability of the results being inaccurate is greater than the probability of the results being accurate. If you were flipping coins, the results would skew in both directions (heads & tails), but with the PopScore the inaccuracies skew mostly up for a number of reasons. These all boil down to the second reason that allocating a small # of credits is the way to a high PopScore: bands spinning 100 plays are not just targeting by similar artist (and location, age, gender), they also get to choose the day and time of their sample. The only bands NOT gaming the PopScore are the ones with samples that are the most accurate, most expensive, and most heard.

The most common method for dealing with unreliable data is to discard it. There are also a number of ways to "correct" bad data. PopScore does neither. Rather, it compares them, along with results from data sets of all sizes (another no-no), to determine PopScore ranking. As the week progresses, more and more of these inflated "false positives" accrue in the top percentiles, forcing PopScores down across the board.

Dawn said...

I'm pretty new at all of this, but it seems to me from looking at the Top 5, is that, what they all have in common (in addition to be good) is that each artist is highly focused in terms of genre. I've always struggled with trying to figure out where my band's music "fits" in terms of target. Having to do the targeting exercise on Jango and how difficult it was for us to do is proof of our lack of focus on a particular genre/ style. Not saying one way is right or wrong... just saying it is easier and more effective to market when the artist has a sense of who their demo/ target audience is.

Skelley's Dream said...

Congratulatuins to the top 5 artist for this week. Hope it will support you in your success. Good luck! Skelley's Dream

Skelley's Dream said...

Congratulations to the new top 5 winners. Hope this will help you in your success! Greetz, Skelley's Dream