Thursday, May 20

New: Have Your Plays Slowed Down?



As always we're working hard here at Jango HQ to make your Airplay experience more effective and functional and on that note you may have noticed the rate which your plays are happening has slowed down. The reason for this is we have introduced a mechanism we call 'Pacing' which determines how fast your allocated play credits are used.

Some of your pacing is still determined by your quantity and choice of artist targets, similars, as well as how many other Airplay Artists have chosen those same targets. There are many more moments for Airplay Artists to be played next to artists like Coldplay, U2, Lady Gaga, Madonna & Jay Z but at the same time many more Airplay Artists choose those targets. Conversely, targeting independent or niche artists means less opportunities for plays but less Airplay Artists choosing those targets. Either way it is always best to target the fan base most likely to be receptive to your music.

With all that in mind we will try and pace your plays as best we can to match your subscription package. In other words - a band that is on a $10/month package will see their plays happen slower than a band on a $100/month package.

Even more exciting is that you will soon be able to turn this pacing on or off right inside your artist dashboard. You will have a choice between 'Normal Pace', meaning the bigger package you have the more plays you receive a day, and 'Fastest Possible' which means we will play your songs as much as we can.

Through all your helpful suggestion e.mails to airplay@jango.com we've heard you loud and clear that this is the number one feature change needed for Jango Airplay right now. We hope this helps make all of your Airplay experiences that much better.

Looking forward, The Juggler

63 comments:

Anonymous said...

They've stopped???????????

Anonymous said...

Good Jango! Goooood Jango! Who's a gooood Jango? Yes, you are! You're such a good Jango! Goooood Jango!

Average Joe said...

VERRRRRYYYYYY SLOWWWWWWWWWWW!! IN FACT WAY TOOO SLOWWWWWWW!! CAN YOU SPEED IT UP A BIT?? IT WAS FINE BEFORE!!

AJ said...

Just curious why people wanted this and how it is supposed to help? I don't get it. What difference does it make? A play is a play is a play...isn't it?

I would think that Mass email to the FANS List and a direct email to link to the COMMENTS LIST would rank above this.

Am I missing somethong here? Or am I the only one who doesn't get this. How does this help??

Thank You

Anonymous said...

Gooood Jango?? What the F does that mean? Maybe that person can explain why this is such a good thing, the logic as to why this is helpful?

Lisa Marie Gabriel said...

I am starting not to understand how jango works.... It seems lately that the more fans I get the less likely I am to get a decent popscore, so I slowed down my plays manually anyway. I also like to see which songs do best at certain times of the week or the day. Now this new change means I can't pace by timezone. With my music I particularly like to avoid times when high school kids log on - now I can't avoid this negative demographic - which makes things pretty meaningless I'm afraid.

Anonymous said...

Yeah this is way too slow right now. I don't get it either, sounds like they are throttling it, so people on the lowest price points go real slow... higher paying customers not. As long as we can change this on the dashboard fine, otherwise its definitely not gooood.

Lisa Marie Gabriel said...

Actually it's worse than that, reading between the lines. I don't know about you, but I am not signed up to a monthly package at all - I didn't know they even existed. What I do have is nearly 7,000 pre-purchased plays (bought through Tunecore) that are stacked up like dominoes! I think this could be the first sign of Jango selling out to the big players in the industry and ditching the independents.

Anonymous said...

Like Lisa Marie above I was targeting by Time Zone...East Coast earlier in the day West Coast later. Best time seems to be late afternnoon when people are getting out of work. There is a 3 hour difference of course when that occurs EST vs. PST. Now I don't have a clue when the songs are going to play.

Also seems like PUNISHMENT for being on a LOW BUDGET PACKAGE!! I thought Jango was here to help the struggling/emerging /LOW BUDGET artists as much as those who can afford to spend hundreds of $$$ or more each week. Seems like the BIG BUDGET guys now get their plays pushed to the front of the line at the expense (no pun intended) of the LITTLE GUYS!!

SEEMS LIKE THIS IS A BAD IDEA!! Have not seen a single comment supporting this, well exceptt for the GOOOOD JANGO comment above which added nothing to explain the reasoning for this being good. It WAS SIMPLY A STUPID MEANINGLESS COMMENT!!

Would love to see the "polls" or feedback that made this the number 1 requested change? HARD TO BELIEVE. Can't wait till the OFF Button is added to the Dashboard!! Do you think that will really happen? I hope so!!

Jessica Johnson said...

Oh geez, you people complain about everything!

Anonymous said...

UPDATE : 132 UNPLAYED Allocated Credits at 11a.m.
2:51 pm 132 UNPLAYED ALLOCATED CREDITS...
I PAID FOR PLAYS NOT FOR CREDITS TO SIT THERE!!

If I DIDN'T WANT THE FREAKING SONGS TO PLAY I WOULDN'T ALLOCATE THE CREDITS!! DUHHHHHHHH!!

Jessica Johnson said...

And how it bad that you have more control over the pace at which your songs are played? Really, I think you people might be impossible to please!

AVERAGE JOE said...

HEY "JESSICA" WE PAY $$$ WE HAVE A RIGHT TO COMPLAIN!!

Anonymous said...

Bad Jango! BAAAAD Jango! You're a BAD Jango? Yes, you are! You're a BAD Jango! BAAAAAD Jango!

You screwed the pooch.

Anonymous said...

This is not what was asked for. A user-controllable mechanism for LIMITING plays and the runaway expense of Jango @ 10K spins a week would have been nice. It used to be we had some control....now nobody has any control...or any idea of what the f*ck's going on (least of all Jango). What next, gonna chase us out with a broom?

Comeuppance is a bitch.

Anonymous said...

There's a blog administrator?!?!?!??!?!?!? What on earth could have been said and censored here that's worse than what's been said and ignored for all these months?

Jango Airplay said...

Hey everybody, Juggler here,

As it says in the blog post we are about to release a UI in your dashboard so that you can control the throttle yourself.

Stay tuned here for more updates

-JJ

Marilyn Carino said...

Gosh Jessica Johnson, I'm sooooo happy you are there to advocate for Jango, it being the David vs. the Goliath of us independent working musicians. You must do very well in your home studio, mixing all those vocals yourself - I bet that saves you some money, eh! Money you must really dig spending on Jango so people can see your pretty face and listen to your music for free. I’m not as pretty as you, and I care about money. A lot.

Serious, WORKING MUSICIANS use Jango as a BUSINESS TOOL. It COSTS MONEY, unlike Facebook, iLike, MySpace, GarageBand, etc. etc. and thus we are CUSTOMERS who by that token, have a right and also an OBLIGATION to make sure we are getting our money's worth. If you are, like, totally 100% satisfied with Jango than coolio for youlio, keep it up and enjoy that day job. I personally enjoy making 100% of my money from music and I can do that because I consider it part of my business to sweat these kinds of details.

Now, a note to Jango:

Dear Jango:

We, the working musicians of the Jango universe, would like you to know that while your cursory messages which non-address the issues we express here in this blog are sorta appreciated, they do not appease any but the most goshamighty gullible among us that you are actually improving our experience using this site.

"Pacing" changes are of practically zero concern to us since without information about WHERE and WHEN individual songs are played in the country or world, we have no way of knowing how slower or faster pacing affects our fan count (I refuse to say the P word). If I knew that my song "Wicked" was played 50 times in Scandinavia on Tuesday at 4pm their time, which resulted in 12 likes and 7 new fans, well, that is great information I can use. If I can target that the next time I allocate plays and pace them thusly. But without that information how does it benefit us to know that our plays have been slowed down? Every play equals one listener whether its one per hour or 200 per hour. The "quality" of that listener (for me) is directly related to HOW I CAN MONETIZE THAT CONNECTION AND NOTHING MORE.

What we need is FAN COMMUNICATION - why don't you listen to us or at least address why this hasn't been done despite not only our constant harangue about this issue but the rate in which we are withholding our money from you? And while I'm at it, why can't we post videos like Sony, Universal and other corporate clients do? Whazzamatta, can't spare the bandwidth, even though we're paying for it?

What will make us happy is the ability to communicate with fans in a REAL and EFFECTIVE WAY - give them a mechanism to join a fan email list WHEN THEY CLICK "I'M A FAN" and make sure they have a PROMINENT notification when we contact them. Artists should have the ability to send mass bulletins (a la MySpace) to fans who haven't "opted in" to be contacted directly, or have just clicked "I like it" and personal messages (sent individually) to fans who have opted in. That way, there is little to no "spam factor", a la what killed MySpace, and the money we spend each month actually has the ability to be returned to us and then some, via merch, ticket and music sales.

Why is this something that ANY working musician on Jango opposes?? If all you Jango apologists have another way that you make the money back that you spend on Jango (besides your non-music day job), please share it with us here, otherwise, let's all unite to make Jango the GREAT, AMAZING SOLUTION we have been looking for!!!

Peace,

Marilyn

Anonymous said...

I'm just curious about artists that purchase their plays somewhere else like tunecore, that is where I purchase mine. Does that apply to us also? Just wondering. Thank you.

Anonymous said...

What a bunch of illiterate whiners.

You're being given MORE options AND you can turn it off. If you don't like being given a gift, please delete your accounts so that the rest of us can enjoy this even more.

Thank you, Jango. This will be helpful when we want to pace our plays.

Lisa Marie Gabriel said...

I purchased my credits via Tunecore too and haven't had a single play all evening. Jango replied to an email saying there was a technical problem which they were working on. Fair enough.What I don't understand is why people feel the necessity to be rude about each other on this topic? Surely we are all after the same things - plays that play, the ability to target effectively and conversion rates?

The only reason I can see for people to be insulting to the working musicians here is if they DON'T have to target at all because someone else is paying for their thousands of plays....

Anonymous said...

Oh - and I forgot to add:

"Anonymous said...
What a bunch of illiterate whiners.

You're being given MORE options AND you can turn it off. If you don't like being given a gift, please delete your accounts so that the rest of us can enjoy this even more.

Thank you, Jango. This will be helpful when we want to pace our plays."

How extremely rude of you and - typically - no name to your comments!

Anonymous said...

I agree with Marilyn Carino

T. J. Doyle said...

Thanks Jango, I slowed my delivery down by choosing only 5 not heavily trafficked artists and it was working. When you made the change today, it did drop considerably, but all I have to is add more artists to pick up the pace again. This is a good new feature. Keep up the good work.

Anonymous said...

I'm fine with the new feature...but I do agree with some of the other comments...the top priority for making the site better for artist should be better options to communicate with our fans.

Anonymous said...

I think it's a good feature to be able to control the speed in which your music's being played. This new feature is a good option for who ever wants their plays being played more or at a normal rate. It is up to each artist to take it they way they want by a press of a button, very optional. This is a great feature that jango is offering thinking in general... I believe in jango wanting to make the best to offer to everyone. With this it is very controllable, Thanks jango. At the time I also haven't had any plays that I had allocated in the past 7 hours or so, it is part of the process they are goin through as mentioned...Thank you jango jugglers for making it right. Have a great evening...

Anonymous said...

gone from 140 plays a day to 5. thanks for nothing.

Lisa Marie Gabriel said...

Agreeing with anonymous above. I presently have no movement at all on my account since this time last night! I like to put 50 to 100 plays on 2 or 3 times a week, I have no "control button" and I am getting no plays. How that can be "better" or "giving me more control" is beyond my comprehension.... You guys who are finding it better must have been targetting 30 artists or putting on 500 a night to get any movement on your account.

Anonymous said...

I have about 8 sometimes 10 artists targetting and none of them are comercial artists. I can allocate 100 plays and in an hour it's gone sometimes. If I was to put 1000 plays between my songs they also would be gone before the day. What I started doing was allocate off and on through the day and found it very useful. I still get up to 20 fans a day sometimes more with not much plays and great comments. With this we do have more control. I'm sure there is many out there that agree with this. I am very thankful. Thank you jango. I'll be waiting for that button.

Anonymous said...

i mite be iliterit and i mite be a winer but wait what wuz the other thnig? jango is perfec 100 percent just like it is dont like it leave im an american and its all about the music i hate it when pppl are complaning becuz they are stupiod take it from me i know all i know is im just sayin

at least i dont not have the balls to revel imnot anionymous.

Anonymous said...

put it back!this is retarded!

Anonymous said...

Wow... What has this turned into, a battle field??? We should support the hand that feeds us or that we look after. We all want our music to be heard for whatever interest, being for the pleasure of making music and sharing it, for money or for both. This is a music site not a war zone. We should wait and see how things will turn out instead. Who ever wants their music being played more have their own choice for that. I think we should support eachother and jango and let the roll play it's tune...

Anonymous said...

Today’s “throttling” feature is a travesty. NO ONE’s music is being heard, but that’s not the worst of it. Jango shares almost none of the data it collects about our paid plays with us. What it does share is off-line more than a full day each week, and it is often incorrect. Using the scant play stats we have, Airplay customers must do their own record keeping, analysis, and comparison. The only way one can use Jango to find out what targeting tweaks work, what music is getting traction — to generally use Jango as the tool it’s marketed as — is by controlled, costly, and laborious experiments. Today, Jango effectively took that away from its customers. Experiments (and PopScore speculation) for the week: ruined. The ability to compare next week’s performance with last week’s: sorry, start over. The $$$ you spent: not coming back. Even if all you want is to get heard and damn the expense: Nope, we’re in the throttling business now.

This is the second time since I started in December that Jango has *without warning* changed the rules of the game. The last time, they changed the definition of “fan” out of the blue. This was nothing short of revaluing their currency…and to make it worse, they left everyone to figure out on their own what the new value was.

Is Jango determined to keep us from using Airplay for its stated purpose? Why do they bomb us back to square one every few months? What’s their F*#%!^? problem???

Anonymous said...

"As it says in the blog post we are about to release a UI in your dashboard so that you can control the throttle yourself."

You mean the blog post that we got after the "feature" was released upon us? You do realize that you are doing this ass backwards, don't you? For future reference.

1. Heads Up -- lots of advance notice
2. Finish the feature (UI, etc)
3. Debut your new, finished, usable feature.
4. Accept kudos.

It would be classy if you apologized.

Anonymous said...

Not good at all too slow

Anonymous said...

Cool slow it down you will soon speed it up when we don't commit as many dollars l anticipate it will take you about a week to work it out ?
Cheers Trev

Eldorado said...

I find this feature very interesting to control the budget I want to allocate for airplay associated to a period of time.
If I have 5.000 plays, personally I prefer 160 plays during 30 days than 500 for 10 days. Being able to control that pace and define a maximum number of plays per day would be great (without having to manually eliminate the plays every single day).
As a first step being able to choose between 'Fastest Possible' (the situation before) and 'Normal Pace' is good improvement
Hey, we are not loosing anything. If we prefer the situation before, we will be able to choose Fastest Possible!
Eldorado

Anonymous said...

Having a way to mass mail fans would be a disaster. Fans wouldn't like it.

Anonymous said...

LA ELEMENT "Theez Pillz" picked up many fans and listens within hours of release (last Tuesday) but all of a sudden the plays stopped... there needs to be an alert notifying subscribers when the songs are playing. I have listened and listened (for hours) and NOTHING. It seems EVERYONE has a PRIVATE RADIO STATION, or in effect, a PLAYLIST. A radio station broadcast is heard by more than one person at a time. WHERE IS THAT STATION, and where has my money gone? Why purchase more plays when I don't understand what is going on with the money I have already invested?

bam said...

WHAT THE MEEZY FEEZY!!! THEY HAVE COMPLETELY STOPPED!!! SLOW IS ONE THING BUT STOP?!! GIMMIE PLAYS OR GIMMIE DEATH!!!

Jango Airplay said...

Hey TJ, 6.33pm, the Juggler Here

Glad you like the new feature, and you're right, manipulating your targets will definitely have an effect. We're also getting ready to launch the UI in your dashboard so you can turn the throttle on or off at will as well. This will definitely give all Airplay Artists more options in how they want to pace their plays with less manual activity of ad, subtract, plays, targets etc.

looking forward

-JJ

Anonymous said...

We need more options to communicate with our fans.

Jessica Johnson said...

Well said Eldorado...I totally agree with you.

Anonymous said...

This is fun!!

Anonymous said...

It too slow now, I like the way it was before. I use to slow my plays down manually anyway, this is tooooooooooo slow!!!!

Anonymous said...

I guess it all depends on how you define "about to release"
WhereTF is my button???? (no pun)

Anonymous said...

OK WHO'S NEXT TO "FAN" THE FLAMES? (no pun intended)

Anonymous Bad Ass Hip Hop Lovin Gangsta' said...

HOW COME THE JUGGLER ONLY RESPOND TO THE ONE PERSON (TJ) WHO SAY DEY LIKEs DA NEW "FEATURE" AND IGNORES EVERYOBNE ELSE"S CONCERNS ABOUT THE PLAYS NOT HAPPENING?

WAT UP WIT DAT DAWG??

AVERAGE JOE said...

NICE COMMENT MARILYN CARINO!! I thinks I am becoming a "FAN"!!

Anonymous said...

Yeah, seriously... I'm new to Jango and when I first signed up, it was great. Now we're getting no play. I seriously doubt I will buy any more play credits.

Anonymous said...

RE: Having a way to mass email "FANS" would be a disaster...They wouldn't like it!!

Another MORON EMERGES!! So it's better not to be able to contact them all at once and avoid carpal tunnel from hitting the send button 900 times to email them?

WTF difference would it make if you send the emails 1 at a time or a to all at once? OH I GET IT YOU ARE AFRAID OF REJECTION!! IF YOU CAN"T/DON'T EMAIL YOUR FANS YOU CAN PRETEND THEY ALL REALLY LOVE YOU INSTEAD OF CULLING OUT THE ONE's WHO AREN'T REALLY FANS BUT ACCIDENTALLY DID SOEMTHING THAT CLASSIFIES THEM AS "FANS" BY THE JANGO CRITERIA, WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE!!

YIKES!!

Anonymous said...

who put the bong water in the cooler at jango head quarters,everthings geeeeeeeeeeeeeettttttiiing reeeeeeeeeeaall sssssssssssssllllllllllloooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwww,this is going to hurt their profits,why coudnt there throttle option go in with the slowness plan,high pace world,not for the stoners at jango land

Jessica Johson said...

LMAO @ Marilyn...Hon, if you had any sense at all you would see that this new feature SAVES you money. And yes, saving money is good for working musicians, such as myself, who use Jango as a business tool to make $$$. However, you would be too busy stereotyping artists you know nothing about to fully grasp such a concept. Why you don't you breathe, learn to relax, and wait until the pacing button is available before you go writing excessively long letters about what is clearly a work in progress. I mean really...talk about jumping the gun there sweetheart. I don't think it will be too complicated to select the "fastest" option once it is available. OK? Or do you need a pill to calm your frazzled little nerves there?

Cecil Thompkins said...

I don't find this helpful. Plays could be paced before simply by choosing the pace at which plays are allocated. Had the people who suggested this not been on Jango long enough to figure that out? It is moving too slow now. Will the "fastest possible" option return the pacing to the way it was?

Sonic Rebellion said...

So I am going to go along with the tenor of everyone else on here. Sorry my band is not as huge as say...Metallica(nothing against them) but this seems like a way to try to bilk lower playing bands into upgrading their monthly payment(which was better when we had control of that too and could pay as we go). If I can control this(why not yet?) I am ok...but Jango is becoming increasingly focused on finding ways to get more and more out of the bands wallets. GFY@Jessica Johson. You are obviously a plant for Jango because you seem to defend them loyally....like an employee who is being paid by them.

Anonymous said...

Hey Jessica Blowsome!


Britney Spears called and she wants her sound back(copycat)

Anonymous said...

"We should support the hand that feeds us"........
Hey anonymASS......WE PAY THEM.

Kev- said...

I'm glad my music plays slowed down. A three minute song now takes 6 minutes to play.

To me, pacing adds value ... because I'm in front of the listener twice as long.

Anonymous said...

I am anonymous not anonymass. As the good saying goes. "For their fruits they shall be known". All you do is make your self look bad here. But I'm not here to fight back just make you realize...
The hand that feeds us "if" we're selling music, because we are here to promote aren't we? You do have to pay for that it is a given. If you want in return, this is not myspace. This is radio, through this site if your music is good enough people go direct into buying it is a portal, you are here for help, if not you do it yourself some other way but with this kind of options? Good luck... You're never going to find this anywhere else. The opportunity even to be in the the same page as top artists. Take it or leave it. Very simple. The hand that feeds you "if" you're selling music theough their promotions. Isn't that why you allocate your songs? for that or for the pleasure of sharing music or for both. You forgot to mention both lines. Here it goes." We should support the hand that feeds us or that we look after" either way. We are here with our different ideas different wills but with one perpose. To get help. We should be thankful for everything that is being offered to us. If your music is good enough and people like it, you don't need to be spending lots here and in return you get daily fans ang great comments. The music is the one that has the last word. All jango does is spread it world wide something we are not capabale of just alone and for everything else we should thank be in peace rather than fighting eachother and jango out of all... A thing to think about with all due respect...

Anonymous said...

They fixed it.....as you were.

Anonymous said...

Oh, would you look at that. If you select "fastest" it operates just as it did before. What a bunch of moronic amateur idiots a lot of you are.

Anonymous said...

Who is/are the "moronic amateur idiot/s?"

A) Jango (clearly amateurish, sometimes moronic)?

B) Jango customers criticizing new pacing "feature" (amateurs by definition)?

Or is it

C) the moronic idiot who's got everything all figured out (i.e., you)?

I'm going with the safest bet: "D" (all of the above, myself included). But I think it's probably "C".

Anonymous said...

There is a few of them here. The rest i'm sure is happy and support the way jango works. Jango doesn't need you. You need jango. STOP crying about everything and behave like adults and artists not like a bunch of morons. You can cry all you want. They'll never make you happy. You'll always have something to cry about. It is very annoying to have to be reading nonsense. And it is. Because if you don't like it. Leave and leave us all alone... Jango rules. It works for me and I'm not the only one as I see more possitive comments than the few like yours. Who knows? maybe it's just you over and over trying to make a mess but it won'r work. Something must not be working for you. Figure it out, maybe this is not your calling... If you think it is. Do something about changing your ways whithin. Learnt to respect yourself so you can respect others. Nobody has all figured out but at least we don't go on letting ourselves look the way you do here. I love everything about jango except for one thing. That is having to be reading the kinds of comments that are here. It doesn't seem as if there is artists here. More like a bunch of bullies that need to grow up. Go back to the studio and figure out that is about the music not attaking everyone including a system you use. Good luck...